- Hello.

- Hello. Why do you love Utp?

- I love Utp because the company is committed to reflecting Australia as it really is. The Australia that you and I know.

- Utp is different to other organizations because it is about place. And it is about being on the ground and connected to community.

- So, would you like to tell me a little bit about yourself, so you can get into it?

- Well, I worked at Utp a really long time ago, like '90 to '95.

- [Interviewer] Nice.

- And then, for some years after that. I've stayed in contact with the company over the years, as one does with Utp.

- And in that sense, it's like a family because we have the old and the young.